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Interview: David Guggenheim (2010, 2012 Black List)

David GuggenheimThanks to our partners at The Black List and their bountiful blog, Go Into the Story by Scott Myers.

David Guggenheim broke into the business in February 2010 by selling the spec script Safe House which was produced and has grossed $208M worldwide. Since that time, Guggenheim has sold two more spec scripts: “Black Box” to Universal and “Narco Sub” to 20th Century Fox, as well as the pitch “Puzzle Palace”. With several other projects in development and having made the Black List twice (2010, 2012), it’s safe to say Guggenheim is one of the hottest action-thriller screenwriters in Hollywood today.

Here are links to the six installments of the entire interview:

Part 1: “You know, I just love the craft of constructing a story, coming up with movie concepts. That’s the fun for me. Just you and a blank page and you’re just coming up with stories.”

Part 2: “I love spy movies, and that’s my favorite genre to work in. And what I like doing, is taking a piece of a movie, that’s usually isn’t the focal of the movie, and blowing that up, and saying let’s do the movie from that point of view.”

Part 3: “For me, the best action movies are always the character‑driven action movies and they’re the one’s you always remember.”

Part 4: “Obviously, for the sake of the read, you want the action to jump off the page as much as possible, but what’s more important than the actual choreography is to come up a fresh way figuring out how the characters got into the action scene in the first place and how they get out of it.”

Part 5: “I think in a spec you need to make sure you’re hooking your reader in that first 15 pages, and that it has a strong enough concept. Because your concept it what’s going to set it apart.”

Part 6: “I will take any idea and I will try it. I may not agree with it when it’s given to me, but I always give the idea a chance, and I’ll try it.”

Please stop by comments to thank David and ask any questions you may have.

David is repped by Paradigm and Madhouse Entertainment.

So… That Happened

By W. Kamau Bell. Originally posted here.

So… that happened.

That is one of my favorite lines in the history of film. It is from David Mamet’s brilliant State and Main. It comes out of the mouth of Alec Baldwin’s character right after he totals his car and the underage girl he was — and shouldn’t have been —with runs from the scene of the crimes. Alec casually looks to the person who witnessed the whole thing and says, matter of factly, “So… that happened.”

I always took that to mean, “I don’t know what the fuck that was exactly, but it happened. And now we all just have to deal with it and move on.”

Yup, Totally Biased has been canceled.

So… that happened.

Although what DID happen with Totally Biased has happened thousands of times in the history of show business… nay the world. It goes like this. Person gets job. Person works hard at job. Person loses job. My whole career I’ve seen talented comics get opportunities that I thought, “WOW! That is definitely going to be the THING for her!” And then I’ve seen that thing not become the THING. This is just my time for that. I thought Totally Biased was going to be my “THING!” I worked hard to make it so, and it didn’t happen. So now I get the chance to find a new “THING” and to see how that goes. That’s amazing. The show was canceled. I’m not canceled. 99.999% of stand-up comics don’t get this far. If I’m really lucky, what we did on Totally Biased will be remembered long after it stops airing. Heck, my mom is still mad that they canceled Frank’s Place. (Google it. It was great.)

The one thing I truly hope is that whoever the next comic is to be considered for a show doesn’t get judged by my lack of… you know… still having show. I hope John Landgraf and the beautiful people at FX (and FXX) continue to take chances on the underdogs. Their batting average is kind of amazing. I hope this doesn’t bum them out too much.

I am very proud of Totally Biased. The Lindy West / Jim Norton debate was amazing. For the rest of my career I will chase the highs of Sikh vs Sheikh. Hell, I got to talk to Rachel Maddow for nearly TEN MINUTES! I learned I like talking to random people on the street about real things; (I will be more proud of Anything to Say to a White Guy than anything else I do in my career.) Also I got to have one of my heroes, Vernon Reid of Living Colour, write me a theme song. I was able to work closely with the comedy Jedi Chris Rock. And, above it all, I was able to employ some awesome comics with original voices. Many of whom are my friends… and who will hopefully forgive how crazy I have been the last several months.

There are so many people who worked on the show. So many talented people who have much more experience in TV than I have (not hard to beat since I had none before this.) And they humbled themselves to pull in my direction, even when they sometimes had no idea where we were all headed. I appreciate all of their support. I will never forget it.

Most importantly, when Totally Biased was at it’s best it gave comedic voice to people and issues that do not often get that space on television. (I am overwhelmed by the love the show is getting now.) I tried. I really tried. And I’ll keep trying somewhere else.

Who knows what the next thing will be? (Seriously, who knows? I need a job. — Kidding… Mostly.) I am literally boiling over with ideas, and I can’t wait to get started. I am excited to get back into stand-up in a big way. I can’t wait to get my voice back. Many of you who watched Totally Biased have only seen a sliver of the real me. Check out my Fresh Air interview with Terry Gross for a more distilled version. But until then, I will see you on Twitter, Facebook, and in a city near you. I have a lot to say.

Thank you for your support. And still remember to stay totally biased.

Now, I’m gonna go update my LinkedIn profile.


P.S. Bring back Frank’s Place.

I Love My Writers Guild of America, East

By Amanda Cole

A couple of nights ago I was at a small film get together hosting Derek Cianfrance (writer/director of Blue Valentine). He used phrases like “I thought I was cursed” and “people thought I was delusional” about making his first movie. This language oddly made me feel better, then as I was bitching to him about my own personal film curse and delusion – which if you are ever going to bitch and moan to a well-known successful writer/director, friends, he was an elegant pick- he told me master marble makers used to strike at marble 1,000 times with a hammer and it would look the same. Then they would strike that 1,001st time- and blammo! It would crack. Then I went home and wrote 20 pages of my newest screenplay. I love my Writers Guild of America, East. Thanks for making that happen.

2013 Softball Recap

by Timothy Cooper

softballWe writers are good with more than just our fingers. Occasionally, we’re also handy with a bat, a softball and our legs. How else could the WGAE Softball Team have made it to the league playoffs in two out of the past two seasons?

In Summer 2013, our 25th(!) season, we finished a more-than-respectable second place in our division. Our playoff game ended with a pretty impressive 0-4 loss to the #1-seeded team—the team that eventually won the championship, aka the Marsh “We Have Time to Devote to Softball Because We Hate Our Jobs” Casualties.

Our regular-season opponents this year included WABC “Who’s Dave?” TV, HipCricket “We’re Embarrassed to Work at a Place Called HipCricket,” Christie’s “We Only Sell Forgeries” and ValueLine “We’re Probably an In-Flight Magazine” Publishing.

I couldn’t be prouder of a team that often rallied from behind, oftentimes to actually win. As in life, sometimes our job was as simple as showing up where others failed to: Once, we huddled next to our field in the middle of a storm, as thunder bloomed around us. We won that game by default, because the other team was too intimidated by little things like lightning strikes to even show up.

We did an amazing job this season, and I have a feeling we’ll be the division champs next time around. Plus, all of us can sleep pretty soundly until the league starts up again in April 2014, knowing that we excel intellectually and physically—a winning combination. Here’s to next year!

Kraig Wenman, Screenwriter

by Justin Samuels

Today’s interview is with screenwriter Kraig Wenman, who has been a prolific screenwriter since 2006.

Justin Samuels: Do you think the Internet has made it a lot easier for screenwriters to break in and find work?

Kraig Wenman: Absolutely, without the Internet, I wouldn’t’ve been able to make so many inroads in the industry. But like anything, it’s a tool within a larger toolbox.

JS: What’s your opinion on online services like Inktip?

KG: Da’ best. Almost every job I’ve had has come from a connection I made on/through There’s other services out there, but it’s the only one I use.

JS: What roles do social media like Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail play in networking? Have they replaced the Rolodex?

KG: It’s helpful to an extent, but at the end of the day, people want to work with people they know they can interact and hang out with. Going into a film is a lot like a relationship. So a blind date via Twitter or LinkedIn hasn’t replaced face-to-face meetings, lunches, dinners and the inevitable conception and birth of project.

JS: How did you learn screenwriting?

KG: The Screenwriter’s Bible by David Trottier was where it was at for me when I started. Had been to film school before that.  But I hadn’t focused particularly on screenwriting, so Trottier’s book saved me. It’s great because it’s an actual working textbook that you can write in. Had read the usual books by the usual gurus, but I’d rather write than talk about writing any day.

By this, I mean that the best way to learn screenwriting is to do it. Don’t wait for inspiration.  Force it or you’ll be waiting a long time. You can always press delete, and no one’s going to read it but you. There is no such thing as writer’s block, only fear of failure. Fail, try again, and then say, “Tomorrow I will make better mistakes.” You’ll learn more from your mistakes than from your triumphs.

JS: Is Absolute Deception, starring Cuba Gooding, Jr., your first film to star an A-list actor?  Absolute Deception is distributed by Sony, isn’t it? How did it feel to get such a big deal?

KG: I originally wrote Absolute Deception at the end of 2008 as an assignment, and it was originally meant as an MOW. I didn’t even know it was getting made until the first-day-of-principle-photography check showed up. It was written in Canada, shot in Australia and bought at Cannes, so it’s made its journey around the sun and many other creatives’ hands. I haven’t seen it yet, but looking forward to seeing what they’ve done with it.

JS: How did you feel when you got accepted by the WGA?   How do you think the Guild is supportive to writers?

KG: Being Canadian, I’m currently in the WGC and transferring over to the WGA in the next month, so I’ll keep you posted on my experiences. But the WGA is cool because it’s a great proverbial crucifix that helps protects you from the demons of the Hollywood.

JS: The Body Farm is the first feature film that you’re both writing and directing, right?  How does it feel to step into the director’s chair?

KG: Haven’t stepped yet, but making steps toward it. Currently in development and financing so unfortunately not much to report. What is exciting, though, is a new project called Creation of the Gods that I’m co-writing with Transformers/X-Men producer Tom Desanto. Tom’s a solid guy with a lot of passion for the project, so things are heating up substantially. Gods is like an X-Men meets Lord of the Rings. It’s an epic tale that you’ll see out in theaters soon.

JS: Can you say who will star in The Body Farm?

KG: Still in development, so nope.

JS: Do you have any advice for other writers out there that you’d care to share?

KG: When you first start out, everyone will tell that, in Hollywood, everyone has a script. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good or filmable (that’s not a word is it?) script. Millions of people have cars too, but how many good drivers do you know? Don’t be discouraged, as there’s a way into the industry or no one would already be there. It really just takes persistence and then more persistence. It’s not in how many times you fall, but how many times you get up.

However, a good way to see it is that Hollywood is a party you haven’t been invited to yet. No one owes you anything, or needs to hold open a door to let you in. So you need to earn that invite past the Doorman (who also has a script) by hustling and writing every day. It’s like lifting weights: the more you do it, the stronger you’ll get. The more you sweat in training, the less you’ll bleed in battle. Damn, can you tell I’ve been researching war movies for the last couple of months?

Softball: 2013 Season Recap

by Timothy Cooper

On August 5, the WGAE softball team made it to the first round of the Corporate Sports 2013 League Championship Playoffs. There, we faced our most difficult opponent of the past several years: the league’s #1-ranked team, the Marsh Casualties. This intimidating name happens to be way more interesting than their actual jobs, which involve insurance. This explains why they have so much time to dedicate to softball: They have no


satisfaction in any other area of their lives. Thus, we should feel proud that they only scored four runs on us–and that zero of those were on our errors. That’s how we want to go down, if we have to go down.

And we went down admirably. It was a tight two-run game until the sixth inning; we were never all that far apart, skill-set-wise. Sure, our offense may not have been at its best, but our defense was pretty much completely error-free. We communicated, we brought the ball in, we played smart. There were a few runs we couldn’t do anything about. But if we had played this beautifully in the field throughout the whole season, we would have easily been first in our division. That’s why there’s always next year!

The lineup: Jo returned to the fold–and the field–to run some sick D from third. Marni rocked second. Jake played short, for a change, and Emmitt was rock-solid at first, while Zayd hit the strike zone nonstop, providing a seamless combo. Zach and I kept active in left, while Tina, Sharon, and Lauren covered right. Marcia at catcher rounded out a tight on-field team. Meanwhile, Doug and Parnie provided invaluable base coaching, and Susan cheered us on. Everyone came together on a beautiful Tuesday evening for a moment we should all be proud of.

Zach and I made some nice catches in the first, but we only advanced as far as second base. In the second, they scored one on a walk. In the third inning, about as much happened as happens on a typical day in the Marsh offices: nothing. After we took multiple walks in the fourth, Jake made it to third but was tagged on the way home; then they scored an additional run. We made it to second base yet again on my walk in the fourth inning, but I got stranded on third despite Emmitt’s hit. Their one triple (on a bogus foul–I’m telling you, those cones curved WAY to the left) and a walk in the sixth gave them two more, for a final score of 04.

Still, we deserve to congratulate ourselves on an excellent season. We clinched second, and I have a feeling we’ll be the division champs next year. Playoffs two years in a row–that’s nothing to sneeze at. Plus, we can sleep soundly tonight, knowing we don’t work in insurance (not that there’s anything wrong with that!).

There will be a team celebration/reminiscing/potluck in the fall, to which all are invited–even if you didn’t play this year. And if you’re interested in a fall-ball league that Marcia may be putting together, contact her at Why not stay all fit and stuff in the off-season?

Well done, everyone, for 2013. Thank you for letting me manage you–and I’ll see you all back on the field next year!

Your faithful manager,



A Staged Reading of Your Dramatic Screenplay

The Guild’s next Screenplay Reading will be held in February 2014. We will feature two screenplay excerpts, each chosen by a panel of judges from among your submissions. One except will be a comedy, chosen from among the previous round of submissions. We are now accepting submissions for the dramatic screenplay reading.

The readings will be cast, directed and performed by experienced industry professionals. WGAE President Michael Winship will conduct a Q&A with the writer after each reading, and a reception will follow the Q&A.

To enter:

1. Pick the best 20-page excerpt from your screenplay.

2. Write a narrative to cover the rest of the story, making sure to indicate where the excerpt fits into the narrative.

3. Include a one-paragraph bio.

4. Submit all of this in PDF or MS Word format to

Do not include your name or other identifying information on the title page. This is a blind entry process. ONLY the title should appear on the cover page. Your name, bio, contact information, as well as a logline and any comments, should appear in the body of your email and nowhere in the screenplay itself.

The competition is open only to WGAE members; only one submission per member will be accepted.

The deadline for submissions is 5pm EDT on Tuesday, September 3.

SAG-AFTRA/WGAE Film Society, 2013–14 Season

Join the SAG-AFTRA/WGAE Film Society for the 2013–2014 season for screenings of newly-released, major-studio foreign and independent films. Most screenings are held at the Directors Guild of America Theatre at 110 West 57th Street in New York City.

•For those with a tan, barcoded membership card, this season’s renewal fee is $130.
•For new members, or for members who need a new membership card, the fee is $140.
•During the season, the fee for a replacement membership card is $25.

You and a guest may attend 24 regularly scheduled screenings, plus additional bonus screenings. Last year, there were 49 screenings in all. So, for $1.42 per show, a member with guest could attend all 49 screenings. For the 2013–14 season, you will pay $2.91 per film for you and a guest–but factor in the bonus screenings, and the price drops to less than $2. What a great deal!

To join the Film Society, renew your membership or request more information, please visit the Film Society section of our website. Screenings dates are posted online.

Subscriptions are limited and are offered on a first-come, first-served basis. We anticipate greater demand because of the SAG-AFTRA merger, so do not delay in sending in your application.

Membership cards will be mailed in late August/early September. Screenings will begin September 9, 2013, and end August 31, 2014. If you have any questions, please contact Venesa Gomez at 212.767.7811 or Nancy Hathorne at 212.767.7812.

Alex Epstein, Screenwriter

by Justin Samuels

Alex Epstein is a Canada-based screenwriter. He is also a prominent blogger on screenwriting and TV-writing topics at his blog Complications Ensue. For more on his long career in film, check out his imdb profile.

Justin Samuels: The first film you wrote was Warriors. How did writing that come about?

Alex Epstein: That was originally going to be a William Shatner vehicle. William Shatner is a member of an elite squad of death-squad killers so deadly and so illegal they have to be kept locked up. He gets an encrypted message from his father, busts out and they send his best student to hunt him down and kill him. We had a meeting with Mr. Shatner, who has a really superb story sense. He didn’t like the reason the guy busts out. Which was kind of lame. So my boss, who was also the producer asked me to rewrite the script, since he knew I was a writer. Classic case of having the inside track. In the end, it wound up being a Gary Busey vehicle. I can tell you Gary Busey stories if you buy me a few drinks.

JS: What was your background before you became a screenwriter? Did you study anything like film or theatre formally?

AE: I have an MFA from UCLA’s School of Theatre, Film & Television. It helped me get my first job, and it taught me how to direct a short film. I don’t actually recommend going to film school, not as your first day in showbiz. The irony is that the more you know about filmmaking going in, the more you’ll get out of film school. What I recommend people do is get a mailroom job at Endeavor/WMA. Then, when you know a bunch of people who might be willing to help you make a professional film, and you know what sort of film the market would like you to make (which is a combination of what you’re good at, what you love and what the market wants), then go to film school. Maybe even make some films before you go to film school. Definitely write some short film scripts before you go.

In college, I was a Computer Science major. That helped me learn to write a well-structured screenplay in a top-down process. And finally, now that I’m getting into narrative design for games, the computer knowledge comes in handy. I can speak programmer, even if my C++ is a bit rusty.

JS: You critique other writers’ work. What’s that process like? Do you also teach?

AE: When I critique material, I try to think what it really wants to be. What’s interesting about it? What’s fresh? What’s compelling? What’s fun? What’s special? What would make a director spend two years of his life on this? What gets the audience to come see the movie in theaters? And then, how do you structure the story — not beginning, middle and end, but what are the structural story elements? In my book, a story is:

  • (a) a hero we care about
  • (b) who has an opportunity, problem or goal
  • (c) who faces obstacles, an antagonist and/or his or her own flaws
  • (d) who stands to gain something (stakes)
  • (e) and lose something (jeopardy).

(I’ve refined this list over the years.)

When something doesn’t work, [it’s because] 95% of the time one of these essential elements isn’t strong enough, isn’t there or is confused. Fix them, make sure that all the scenes relate to them, and the script will fix itself. I’ve taught a few seminars. I think teaching a class would eat up all my writing energy.

JS: You’re represented by the Omada Agency. How did you obtain your agency representation?

AE: I’ve been with them for almost a decade. I’m pretty sure I was looking for a Montreal-based agency to represent me in my home province. Québec doesn’t just speak a different language, it speaks a different producer culture. Omada represents many of the top directors, cinematographers, art directors and editors. At the time, they didn’t have a deep English-language writer roster. So it was a good match. I’m intrigued by the idea of having representation in New York. As a New Yorker in exile, some of my projects feel “too American” to some Canadian producers. I’m not entirely sure how to go looking. I suppose I could send out query letters? But like everyone else in showbiz, I want to meet somebody who’s already friends with somebody I trust!

JS: What sorts of things does the Writers Guild do for its members? How important would you say Guild membership is to writers, in terms of benefits and career development?

AE: Crucial. I would hate to be out there in the cold without the WGC. They have gone to bat for me repeatedly, for credit and for money. Every time they’ve stepped in, the producer has wound up giving me what we negotiated, rather than whatever it was that the producer decided they were going to give me. The one time they weren’t able to step in, I got screwed. On a national level, the WGC lobbies Parliament to enlighten legislators what the effects of their proposed culture bills will actually be. They can’t always convince the Conservative government to protect cultural funding — the party is more or less against it — but they can at least help ensure there are no unintended negative consequences.

I was Head Writer for a TV show shot in South Africa. They don’t have a strong guild there. Writers get paid so little there that they can actually make more money writing novels. In consequence, it was hard to find good screenwriters there; they were too busy writing novels. What producers don’t realize is that the Guild helps them by ensuring that there’s a cadre of competent professional screenwriters available for them to hire…. Without a Guild, there wouldn’t be enough of us available to give them good scripts.

JS: Has the Internet changed things for screenwriters? If so, how?

AE: It’s hard to say what the Internet hasn’t changed. Facebook enables me to keep in touch with writer-friends I don’t share a writing room with. I no longer have to print out scripts and mail them. I can Google people before I meet them. I can book an AirBnB in Cannes. I can have Skype meetings with producers in Winnipeg. Any day I don’t have to fly to Winnipeg is a good day. It’s also easier to do research, if you can manage not to procrastinate. Lord knows, it’s much easier to procrastinate.

I think the more interesting change is in filmmaking technology. Today, anyone with a phone and a computer can shoot and edit a film and upload it to YouTube. Everyone has access. The big-budget stuff is still only for professionals, but each year it gets easier and easier to make a film. That means people who can make a great film don’t have to have rich parents. It’s not an accident that someone like Chloé Robichaud can make a film at 25 that screens at Cannes. You could do that decades ago, but only if you were loaded.

JS: What are your latest projects? What things do you have in development?

AE: This year I directed my fourth and fifth professional shorts. I took one to the Cannes Film Market, and the other will screen during TIFF. I’m hoping to transition to being a writer and director. I’m currently working on financing a suspense thriller I hope to direct called Alice Is Perfectly Fine Now. And I’m the narrative designer and voice director on a very cool video game called Contrast that’s a launch title for the PS4.

JS: The last two features you worked on, Happy Slapping and Eddie: The Sleep Walking Cannibal, were released last year and this year. Can you tell us what they are about?

AE: Happy Slapping is about a bunch of suburban teenagers coming to downtown to get into trouble. They’re hoping to shoot video of themselves “happy slapping” innocent strangers, but that doesn’t go so well. It develops that this is all really one girl looking for revenge on her father. Eddie: The Sleep Walking Cannibal is a gory art satire about a painter who can only paint when he’s exposed to carnage, who meets a retarded man who kills and eats animals when he’s sleepwalking. So he encourages him to kill and eat people. I mean, for inspiration, you do what you have to do, right?

JS: What is your favorite genre to write, or do you have a favorite?

AE: I’m probably best known as a comedy writer. But most of my own projects are in some way a subversion of fairy tales, myths and legends. The story itself may be natural or supernatural, but there’s usually a legend in there somewhere.

JS: In some of the films you’ve worked on, you’re credited as writer and story editor. Care to elaborate on what the story editor does?

AE: I ask for a story editor credit when I work with the writer to help him or her realize his or her vision. Basically, I give a lot of notes. If I do it once, I call it story consulting. So long as I don’t do any actual writing in the script, it’s story editing. If I’m asked to do the polish or rewrite myself, then it heads into being a script doctor, which may or may not entitle me to a writing credit depending on the depth of the changes.

JS: As for your future plans, is there anything you want to do professionally that you have not already done?

AE: In the past couple of years I’ve been directing more, and working as a narrative designer for video games. I do love TV, and I pitch TV ideas to the networks; I’d love to create another show.

Dispatch from the Nantucket Film Festival

by Susan Sandler

The second part of an interview with Destin Daniel Cretton. Click here to read Part 1.

Susan Sandler: Can you tell us about your background, when you began thinking about film?

Destin Daniel Cretton: I grew up on Maui. I’m 34. It feels like I worked in theatre because I’m one of six kids and, growing up in a tiny town in Haiku, we put on plays for my parents all the time. That turned into making skits and little movies once we got a hold of my grandma’s VHS camera. My siblings and I got addicted to that. We would make movies as much as we could. It was always a hobby of mine, through high school, but I was never pursuing it as a career. It wasn’t part of my vocabulary. It wasn’t like an occupational option. None of my friends would even think about that. None of my family would ever think about that. It never crossed my mind that filmmaking and screenwriting were even jobs.

SS: When did that change?

DDC: My senior year of college [at Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego]. I was a communication major by then, but I went into college to be a nurse.

SS: A nurse?

DDC: Yeah (laughs). I was going for a nursing degree my first semester, but I realized if I took Mass Communication, I’d be able to take this video/film class. It wasn’t like a film major, but it was close. Then during my senior year, I went to a school called L.A. Film Study Center, and it was there that I did my first short: a little black and while silent film that I shot on Super 8. That was the first time that I felt that strange and magical connection between a film and an audience–something that I had made connected with people. Even though it was this tiny little thing, it felt very powerful to me. It wasn’t that I thought, “Oh, I can do this as a career,” but it was at that point that I thought, I really want to continue doing this for the rest of my life. And it had nothing to do with making money at it or anything like that. I just knew I wanted to continue doing it.

SS: Because of the sheer joy of it.

st-12DDC: YES! It’s always the sheer joy of it, right? The wonderful thing about Hawaii, at least in my community, there really is no pressure, no occupational pressure. Growing up, my honest aspiration was at one point to be a garbage man because the hours were good, and I wanted to have daylight hours to do the things that I wanted to do on Maui.

SS: Like what?

DDC: Like surf. And fish and hang out at the beach. And all the things that are wonderful to do on Maui. That’s the thing about Maui–the first question you’re asked is never, “What do you do?” The first question is “What did you do today?” And what they’re asking is, “What beach did you go to? And were the waves good?”

SS: Wonderful. So now that you’ve crossed over to this very ambitious universe where people are asking you what you do and what’s coming up next, do you have a kind of professional drive, or are you holding onto that sense of what’s giving you real artistic pleasure in the moment? That must be a really hard thing to hold on to.

DDC: It is. I can definitely feel the temptation of being caught up in the industry and the pressures to perform and the pressures to perform on somebody else’s timeline. Every morning, I have to remind myself why I think the stor[ies] that I’ve told so far are connecting with people. And it’s because I am carefully choosing things that I really connect with, and would do with or without any kind of monetary gain. I would have done every project up to this point and happily lost money on it, because I see it in the same way that I see surfing, or doing anything else that I love. I hope I can hold onto a piece of that forever. I’m not a crazy idealist. I understand the reality of things, but I hope that I can remind myself of that every day. I feel like that’s where my best work comes from.

SS: I have a feeling and you’re going to continue to surround yourself with people who steer you in the right direction.

DDC: That’s definitely the thing that excites me most. I’ve found that the more open I am in meetings– the more honest I am about the types of stories I want to tell, the things about the industry I think are bullshit–that’s when I’ve found there are a lot of other people I connect with: really incredible, genuine human beings who still remember why they are pursuing storytelling as an occupation, still chasing after that wonder that we had when we were kids, just making stuff up and having a blast doing it.


Susan Sandler is a screenwriter and playwright and lifetime member of WGAE.  She teaches screenwriting at NYU’s Tisch School of the Arts, where she also organizes the Fusion Film Festival, celebrating women in film, TV and new media.